<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Why I lo(ve)athe the n900</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.linuxuk.org/2009/12/why-i-loathe-the-n900/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.linuxuk.org/2009/12/why-i-loathe-the-n900/</link>
	<description>Adventures in Linux Land</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 06:59:52 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxuk.org/2009/12/why-i-loathe-the-n900/comment-page-1/#comment-258</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.linuxuk.org/?p=339#comment-258</guid>
		<description>&quot;Coming from a professional Linux developer (an ARM developer at that)...&quot;

You&#039;re a carpenter, you see your house &quot;needs some fixin&quot;, what do you do?

&lt;a&gt;Qole&lt;/a&gt; your daddy...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Coming from a professional Linux developer (an ARM developer at that)&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re a carpenter, you see your house &#8220;needs some fixin&#8221;, what do you do?</p>
<p><a>Qole</a> your daddy&#8230;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: JamieBennett</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxuk.org/2009/12/why-i-loathe-the-n900/comment-page-1/#comment-235</link>
		<dc:creator>JamieBennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 23:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.linuxuk.org/?p=339#comment-235</guid>
		<description>Nick

Modest seems to have many bugs at the moment and the capitalisation doesn&#039;t yet have a solution. For some reason a &#039;modest -s&#039; on a terminal prompt works 9 times out of 10 but the answer is to start modest, check mail, if bug persists close modest and try again (many times usually).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick</p>
<p>Modest seems to have many bugs at the moment and the capitalisation doesn&#8217;t yet have a solution. For some reason a &#8216;modest -s&#8217; on a terminal prompt works 9 times out of 10 but the answer is to start modest, check mail, if bug persists close modest and try again (many times usually).</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxuk.org/2009/12/why-i-loathe-the-n900/comment-page-1/#comment-234</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 21:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.linuxuk.org/?p=339#comment-234</guid>
		<description>&quot;modest email client capitalizes inbox to INBOX randomly on one of my accounts making the folder inaccessable&quot;

This is the one thing that is driving me crazy. It is doing this to only one of my accounts. I can access all of the other imap folders except the inbox. Is there a solution to this problem? Seems like it would be an easy fix.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;modest email client capitalizes inbox to INBOX randomly on one of my accounts making the folder inaccessable&#8221;</p>
<p>This is the one thing that is driving me crazy. It is doing this to only one of my accounts. I can access all of the other imap folders except the inbox. Is there a solution to this problem? Seems like it would be an easy fix.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Danilo</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxuk.org/2009/12/why-i-loathe-the-n900/comment-page-1/#comment-209</link>
		<dc:creator>Danilo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.linuxuk.org/?p=339#comment-209</guid>
		<description>Thanks for this, most of the annoyances is something I expect with it. The big win I see in N900 is the size, speed and platform. And the fact that if you are not a big phone user (like I am not), you can make do with only one device which doesn&#039;t suck completely (like Nokia E71 does).

FWIW, Access (company behind Palm&#039;s webOS) has had a booth during GUADEC in Vilanova i la Geltru: that&#039;s 2006 (Nokia has first shown up on GUADEC in Stuttgart, 2005). They&#039;ve been working on it for years, and even though &quot;web&quot; in the &quot;webOS&quot; is definitely a more recent theme, it would be wrong to say that Nokia has worked on it much longer than competitors.

Now, there is one huge difference: while Maemo has a big number of proprietary components, its development happens mostly in public compared to webOS or Android. And it uses the stack I am already familiar with (of course, there&#039;s that changing stack debate).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this, most of the annoyances is something I expect with it. The big win I see in N900 is the size, speed and platform. And the fact that if you are not a big phone user (like I am not), you can make do with only one device which doesn&#8217;t suck completely (like Nokia E71 does).</p>
<p>FWIW, Access (company behind Palm&#8217;s webOS) has had a booth during GUADEC in Vilanova i la Geltru: that&#8217;s 2006 (Nokia has first shown up on GUADEC in Stuttgart, 2005). They&#8217;ve been working on it for years, and even though &#8220;web&#8221; in the &#8220;webOS&#8221; is definitely a more recent theme, it would be wrong to say that Nokia has worked on it much longer than competitors.</p>
<p>Now, there is one huge difference: while Maemo has a big number of proprietary components, its development happens mostly in public compared to webOS or Android. And it uses the stack I am already familiar with (of course, there&#8217;s that changing stack debate).</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: tom</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxuk.org/2009/12/why-i-loathe-the-n900/comment-page-1/#comment-203</link>
		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.linuxuk.org/?p=339#comment-203</guid>
		<description>I agree with the missing touch clicks, sometimes annoying yes - but probably fixable with a firmware upgrade.

How to call someone quickly: open keyboard, start typing name.

Scroll bars ARE shown by default, but disappear after a (too&#039;) short moment.

Modest: No problems here (Gmail). IIRC, it DOES cache. You might want to research that.

Hardware: Big and heavy, yes - but sturdy and functionally rich. If you compare, please compare to ANYTHING with the same featureset hardware wise and an equally well implemented keyboard.

Google Sync is not officially supported, complain with Google about custom Non-Standards implementation...

Call problems: problems of your provider/sim?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the missing touch clicks, sometimes annoying yes &#8211; but probably fixable with a firmware upgrade.</p>
<p>How to call someone quickly: open keyboard, start typing name.</p>
<p>Scroll bars ARE shown by default, but disappear after a (too&#8217;) short moment.</p>
<p>Modest: No problems here (Gmail). IIRC, it DOES cache. You might want to research that.</p>
<p>Hardware: Big and heavy, yes &#8211; but sturdy and functionally rich. If you compare, please compare to ANYTHING with the same featureset hardware wise and an equally well implemented keyboard.</p>
<p>Google Sync is not officially supported, complain with Google about custom Non-Standards implementation&#8230;</p>
<p>Call problems: problems of your provider/sim?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxuk.org/2009/12/why-i-loathe-the-n900/comment-page-1/#comment-201</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 17:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.linuxuk.org/?p=339#comment-201</guid>
		<description>hi,

I have to admit that I am very happy to read some &quot;negative&quot; reviews on the N900. It sort of gives me the feeling that some else out there is thinking what I am thinking. So far, everybody i going crazy about this phone. I pre-ordered the phone and waited weeks to get it.
The N900 is very promising but is not there yet !!! There are so many &quot;basic&quot; features that a phone is supposed to have, and believe I am not benchmarking against the iPhone here. 

* touch &quot;clicks&quot; about 30- 40% not registered, the device freezes for seconds
*  the yellow, notifications are very cool, click-touch 50% probability registered. 
* the device is very responsive within a set of applications that are &quot;freshly&quot; opened. e.g. opening email, photos, conversations, calendar and 2 other whatever apps, then switching between then is fast, but after a few minutes or one sleep state in between switching between one application to dash board view is not responsive any more.
* you cannot search or filter the emails
* showing your inbox takes at least 30-45 seconds, I tough that was an IMAP thing. accessing my mail through POP produced the very same results.
* browser: you can successfully install add-ons like delicious,
 or evernote. Restart the browser, like nothing happened. No add on !
* super frustrating is the next screen gesture  !!! you need to swipe over the whole screen, a quick swipe is not interpreted as a gesture, it just bounces the screen back and forth
* it is stupid to wake up the phone with one simple fast quick move. you need to hands to do that (toggle button next to the microphone) or press stand by button&gt; swipe to unlock
* accessing the most important features of the phone (part one): the phone !!! 
press stand by button &gt; swipe to unlock &gt; press stand by button &gt; choose phone. then give the device at least 5 seconds to decide what orientation it will take, then make the call.
* accessing the most important features of the phone (part two): the phone !!! 
press stand by button &gt; swipe to unlock &gt; swipe successfully (usually takes several attempts especially if you are in a hurry) until you reach the screen with the phone short cut
* placing the widgets and short cuts on the screen could have had a nice snap to grid functionality (minor but nice to have)
* adding extra storage with an SD card will simply cripple the phone. 

Finally ... the phone could have been great. It just should have been as responsive as promised by the tech reviewers all over the web community. May be I should buy the Nokia N910 :) I have very high hopes on maemo.

Cheers, Peter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi,</p>
<p>I have to admit that I am very happy to read some &#8220;negative&#8221; reviews on the N900. It sort of gives me the feeling that some else out there is thinking what I am thinking. So far, everybody i going crazy about this phone. I pre-ordered the phone and waited weeks to get it.<br />
The N900 is very promising but is not there yet !!! There are so many &#8220;basic&#8221; features that a phone is supposed to have, and believe I am not benchmarking against the iPhone here. </p>
<p>* touch &#8220;clicks&#8221; about 30- 40% not registered, the device freezes for seconds<br />
*  the yellow, notifications are very cool, click-touch 50% probability registered.<br />
* the device is very responsive within a set of applications that are &#8220;freshly&#8221; opened. e.g. opening email, photos, conversations, calendar and 2 other whatever apps, then switching between then is fast, but after a few minutes or one sleep state in between switching between one application to dash board view is not responsive any more.<br />
* you cannot search or filter the emails<br />
* showing your inbox takes at least 30-45 seconds, I tough that was an IMAP thing. accessing my mail through POP produced the very same results.<br />
* browser: you can successfully install add-ons like delicious,<br />
 or evernote. Restart the browser, like nothing happened. No add on !<br />
* super frustrating is the next screen gesture  !!! you need to swipe over the whole screen, a quick swipe is not interpreted as a gesture, it just bounces the screen back and forth<br />
* it is stupid to wake up the phone with one simple fast quick move. you need to hands to do that (toggle button next to the microphone) or press stand by button&gt; swipe to unlock<br />
* accessing the most important features of the phone (part one): the phone !!!<br />
press stand by button &gt; swipe to unlock &gt; press stand by button &gt; choose phone. then give the device at least 5 seconds to decide what orientation it will take, then make the call.<br />
* accessing the most important features of the phone (part two): the phone !!!<br />
press stand by button &gt; swipe to unlock &gt; swipe successfully (usually takes several attempts especially if you are in a hurry) until you reach the screen with the phone short cut<br />
* placing the widgets and short cuts on the screen could have had a nice snap to grid functionality (minor but nice to have)<br />
* adding extra storage with an SD card will simply cripple the phone. </p>
<p>Finally &#8230; the phone could have been great. It just should have been as responsive as promised by the tech reviewers all over the web community. May be I should buy the Nokia N910 <img src='http://www.linuxuk.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I have very high hopes on maemo.</p>
<p>Cheers, Peter</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxuk.org/2009/12/why-i-loathe-the-n900/comment-page-1/#comment-200</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.linuxuk.org/?p=339#comment-200</guid>
		<description>Hi, I&#039;m yet to receive my n900, it&#039;s on it&#039;s way though. And it strikes me as you not doing a lot of research about the phone before buying it. Alot of the problems that you have were well documented about the phone long before it came out, for instance portrait support, and the devices size. And in one area where you&#039;re wrong you mention that Nokia are marketing it as a mainstream device, which is definitely not the case.
The N900 was meant to be low key and for gadget users, the same sort of people who bought an internet tablet. That&#039;s why the demand problems in Europe have been so prominent because Nokia weren&#039;t intending for this device to be mainstream, if you go to http://nokia.co.uk the n900 isn&#039;t even on the front page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I&#8217;m yet to receive my n900, it&#8217;s on it&#8217;s way though. And it strikes me as you not doing a lot of research about the phone before buying it. Alot of the problems that you have were well documented about the phone long before it came out, for instance portrait support, and the devices size. And in one area where you&#8217;re wrong you mention that Nokia are marketing it as a mainstream device, which is definitely not the case.<br />
The N900 was meant to be low key and for gadget users, the same sort of people who bought an internet tablet. That&#8217;s why the demand problems in Europe have been so prominent because Nokia weren&#8217;t intending for this device to be mainstream, if you go to <a href="http://nokia.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://nokia.co.uk</a> the n900 isn&#8217;t even on the front page.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxuk.org/2009/12/why-i-loathe-the-n900/comment-page-1/#comment-199</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.linuxuk.org/?p=339#comment-199</guid>
		<description>I&#039;ve had all of the Nokia tablet series so far and straight out of the box (for me at least) this one has been the best by far. The 770, 800 and 810 never got my IMAP email right. In fact I was quite upset when they switched to Modest as the old email offered certificate based encryption. The N810 would sometimes work, and sometimes not. Overall I&#039;ve never been a fan of modest.

I&#039;ve had my hands all over the N900 for about 3 days now, and from the start most things have just simply worked. My IMAP email, which was never right? Simply flawless now. Google calendar sync? YES! Ok, the email doesn&#039;t work, and it misses some of the calendar details. But its working, which is more that I&#039;ve ever had before (yes, I used mcal but it never auto-updated for me).

I&#039;d almost recommend you get another N900 since it seems like maybe there&#039;s something wrong with yours. But it does sound like your almost a bit biased. Even so, I&#039;d highly recommend getting your hands on another one. All of my calls have been fine, my SIP works just great and so far I couldn&#039;t be more pleased with the device. Sure, I&#039;m a bit biased and maybe even a fan boy. But I&#039;ve felt your pain, and therefore encourage you to give it another try (with a different piece of hardware of maybe reflashing the firmware).

Just my .02</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had all of the Nokia tablet series so far and straight out of the box (for me at least) this one has been the best by far. The 770, 800 and 810 never got my IMAP email right. In fact I was quite upset when they switched to Modest as the old email offered certificate based encryption. The N810 would sometimes work, and sometimes not. Overall I&#8217;ve never been a fan of modest.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had my hands all over the N900 for about 3 days now, and from the start most things have just simply worked. My IMAP email, which was never right? Simply flawless now. Google calendar sync? YES! Ok, the email doesn&#8217;t work, and it misses some of the calendar details. But its working, which is more that I&#8217;ve ever had before (yes, I used mcal but it never auto-updated for me).</p>
<p>I&#8217;d almost recommend you get another N900 since it seems like maybe there&#8217;s something wrong with yours. But it does sound like your almost a bit biased. Even so, I&#8217;d highly recommend getting your hands on another one. All of my calls have been fine, my SIP works just great and so far I couldn&#8217;t be more pleased with the device. Sure, I&#8217;m a bit biased and maybe even a fan boy. But I&#8217;ve felt your pain, and therefore encourage you to give it another try (with a different piece of hardware of maybe reflashing the firmware).</p>
<p>Just my .02</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: joel</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxuk.org/2009/12/why-i-loathe-the-n900/comment-page-1/#comment-198</link>
		<dc:creator>joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 10:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.linuxuk.org/?p=339#comment-198</guid>
		<description>The Nokia 770 was flawed but beautiful, I loved it. It had promise even where it was limited or not very good. Every subsequent generation has failed to capitalize on that promise to the extent that was possible.

I like the n800, my father still uses it.

I was impatient with the n810.

tired now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Nokia 770 was flawed but beautiful, I loved it. It had promise even where it was limited or not very good. Every subsequent generation has failed to capitalize on that promise to the extent that was possible.</p>
<p>I like the n800, my father still uses it.</p>
<p>I was impatient with the n810.</p>
<p>tired now&#8230;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: JamieBennett</title>
		<link>http://www.linuxuk.org/2009/12/why-i-loathe-the-n900/comment-page-1/#comment-196</link>
		<dc:creator>JamieBennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 08:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.linuxuk.org/?p=339#comment-196</guid>
		<description>I wasn&#039;t going to go into specifics because I didn&#039;t want to get bogged down with the negatives but:

* Email checking is impossible because a) one of my accounts gets its inbox capitalized to INBOX so when I click it, its not available and b) imap folders don&#039;t get cached so it takes ages to look at an account.
* The hardware is heavy and big, far more cumbersome that the competition (and yes I know it has a keyboard).
* One handed operation is impossible due to no portrait mode.
* Many occasions I&#039;ve not been able to make a call (it doesn&#039;t recognize a number) but picking up the iPhone and dialing the same number works.
* Same for receiving calls. Nokia = some &#039;straight to voice mail&#039; calls, iPhone = never happens in the same situation.
* Web browsing is frustrating due to inconsistent zooming, back button UI, scrolling and clicking screen registration randomness.
* Many, many other problems

I like where Maemo is going but this device is aimed at the mass-market (you can get it free with a contract here in the UK) and I feel its far too early.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t going to go into specifics because I didn&#8217;t want to get bogged down with the negatives but:</p>
<p>* Email checking is impossible because a) one of my accounts gets its inbox capitalized to INBOX so when I click it, its not available and b) imap folders don&#8217;t get cached so it takes ages to look at an account.<br />
* The hardware is heavy and big, far more cumbersome that the competition (and yes I know it has a keyboard).<br />
* One handed operation is impossible due to no portrait mode.<br />
* Many occasions I&#8217;ve not been able to make a call (it doesn&#8217;t recognize a number) but picking up the iPhone and dialing the same number works.<br />
* Same for receiving calls. Nokia = some &#8217;straight to voice mail&#8217; calls, iPhone = never happens in the same situation.<br />
* Web browsing is frustrating due to inconsistent zooming, back button UI, scrolling and clicking screen registration randomness.<br />
* Many, many other problems</p>
<p>I like where Maemo is going but this device is aimed at the mass-market (you can get it free with a contract here in the UK) and I feel its far too early.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
